ah ok! i once had a all white goldfish i had won at a school fair years ago and it suprisingly lived 4+ years mom got tired of it so we had to give her away but she was p big maybe 4-5 inches long or so
Hmm i agree with both of you that A. space is important for goldfish, and they do grow fast. Heck, my guys have tripled in size in the last 3 months. B. but also have to agree with Griffsnuff that there are a lot of other factors, such as clean water (probably most important), diet, and yes certain breeds are larger than others. I'm no expert myself, but as long as Griffsnuff keeps the water clean and has plans to upgrade eventually, I don't see a problem (though it would be convenient to have a larger tank). Lyftrynne you do seem knowledgeable and have some good points, but I was under the impression that it was 40+ for single tails and 15+ gallons a fish for fancies? I'm sure more space is always a plus though. It is good to see people starting out with tanks rather than bowls and we all have lots to learn and grow. Also it is great to see people getting excited about fish and doing their best to care for them
Not to be rude or anything but goldfish grow faster than koi, they usually do not get as big as koi but the regular single tail goldfish have been known to reach incredible sizes in the wild. (usually they were thrown in ponds or whatnot and survived. The orange colored ones I mean, not the original form which was used to create the orange colored ones)
There is a difference between single-tail and double tail goldfish. It is best to not keep a single tail goldfish in a tank but in a pond seeing as they need a lot more space.( more active in swimming and grow bigger than the double tailed breeds). The growth rate can be up to 25cm (9.8 inch)in a year depending on the breed . Also it is better to start out in a big tank rather than a small one cost wise and health wise for the fish. If you start out with a big tank, filled half way, you would only have to fill it up and add more filtration as the fish get bigger. Instead of buying new tanks all the time to keep up with the growth rate. The biggest fish we had was an 11.8 inch Ryukin. She weighed over 1 pound and could not be held in one hand. She was a long tail though. They tend to be bigger than short tails.
If you are going to keep single tails in a tank, it needs to be one huge tank with a lot of filtration. Even the small ones polute the water as if their life depends on it. More inportant are the hormones they produce naturally. Too many of those in the water stops the growthrate of the body, the fins will continue to grow untill they look abnormally huge which in turn can cause serious health issues.
Rule of thumb we have always used here is: 1. Lots of fresh water 2. Good quality food (saki hikari, a-plus etc.) 3. A lot of space (think 100gallons or more and 40gallons per goldfish (depending on the breed it can be more or a bit less) 4. Good filtration (the more filtration the better, combined with good growing plants, even better)
Our set up currently has 2 double tail goldfish. One Ryukin 10 inch and one Demekin 6 inch in a 100 gallon tank.
If you keep goldfish too small, they will not grow . Well that is not completely true, their fins will continue to grow, their bodies will not. Let me show you what our fish looked like. The orange one died unfortunately. We had to put her to sleep because she had a genetic swim bladder defect. The red and white one is still with us though he is now about 6-7 years old.
They are both Ryukins and the Red and White goldfish has the problem I mentioned in my post. His fins are way too big because he was kept in vase (yes a flower vase) for a while and after that, he was kept in a small tank for a few years. We got him at about 5 inch and he is double in size now.
The video was in the summer. We kept them outside We do not handle our fish unless we absolutely need to. The length of the video is the time we held them and they were not held again untill a few months later. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrpXU6…
I dont see any issues with my fish. A nice rule for you to keep in mind is as long as fish is not longer put together than the smallest width of the tank then there is no issue xD the most annouing thing is when random people come and tell you your doing something wrong and being all expert on something themselves. I myself think its fish abuse to have mutated fish, since they can get a lot of health problems and have a hard time at swimming, but that doesnt mean I have to go around telling people that xD
XD My lid cracked so we had to buy a new one, when I still had the tank. Since my fish died, and I don't have enough time to keep them anymore, I'm selling it. Another day, I plan to start keeping fish again.
I remeber seeing this and thinking that it's a wonderful idea. I aim to get one one day, to keep bettas again. Might get a few, actually XD